Question:
Who is the most important player in NFL history?
tom m
2007-06-08 12:23:44 UTC
Who is the one player in the history of the NFL who had the greatest impact on how the game is played and its popularity? I'm not looking for who you think is the best, just who changed the game the most.
25 answers:
David B
2007-06-08 12:49:38 UTC
Harold "Red" Grange.



When he ran out of eligiblity at Illinois as a senior in 1925, he went pro the next week. George Halas signed him to the Bears, and the Bears went from averaging 15,000 fans on a good day to completely selling out Wrigley Field. Everywhere the Bears went, they sold out. Without the "Galloping Ghost", the NFL would have floundered for years and possibly folded. With "The Wheaton Iceman", the great college players started taking the NFL seriously and college coaches started thinking of the NFL as being a serious pursuit.



Red Grange, therefore, is the most important player in NFL history. Teams forced Halas to guarantee that Grange would play, because fans would demand refunds if Grange could not play - and on the tour that season Grange was injured, and several owners had to refund large numbers of tickets from their only sellout of the year.
Blitzburgh
2007-06-08 13:04:00 UTC
I think it is Joe Namath. In 1968 the football was a different. There were two leagues the AFL and the NFL. Since 1965 the two leagues would play each other in a championship game called the Super Bowl. The NFL was a better league. Most people thought that the NFL were more skilled, talented, and just an all around better league. All the best players played in the NFL. It would be like today the National Football League playing against the Canadian Football league. In Super Bowl one and two the NFL teams won. But in 1968 Joe Namath the Jets quarterback lead his Jets (AFL) to beat the Colts (NFL). This shocked the world. This brought equality to both leagues the AFL. This was one of the reason why the AFL and NFL joined to make one league in 1970. If Namath would of never won the game there may not be a AFC conference in the NFL. Also because of the Jets win the NFL got more popular. More people went and watched the games. He helped make the NFL the most popular league in the USA. He also made the Super Bowl popular.
BigPrimo82
2007-06-08 14:40:23 UTC
Well, Bill Walsh reinvented the game completely with the west coast offense that he approved on. Walsh's system of offense was so far advanced it was virtually unstoppable. With that,many of his pupils became successful coaches (Seifert,Shanahan,Holmgren and influenced Norm Chow, Andy Reid, and Brian Billick ). So hands down he's the "person" that had the greatest impact in the game. As far as player its so hard to pin out one person because football is not a sport where one person can totatlly dominate a game like basketball (Wilt Chamberlain/Michael Jordan) or baseball ( Nolan Ryan/ Babe Ruth). I'm a huge Joe Montana fan, but even I know that he didnt have as much influence on the game as Payton Manning will when things are all said and done. Players like Jonny U and Payton is a reason why offensive coordinators are an over rated job on the payroll. He's everything rolled into one. It couldnt be players like deion sanders cuz all you had to do was punt out of bounds, run the ball his way cuz he couldnt tackle, or not throw to his side. You can not take Manning out of a football game because he's too good of a defense reader and makes well adjustments. Payton is the guy that will break all of Marino's records and if you asked any defensive coordinator, they would rather go up against Vick than Manning any night. Peace I'm out this *****!
Richard F
2007-06-08 12:30:34 UTC
Johnny Unitas. He changed the way the game was played. Before Johnny, it was a game of runningbacks. Now, the game is about the quarterback. He revolutionized the passing game and made the NFL into a prime time league.



A close second would be Randall Cunningham, the first super-popular mobile quarterback. He was Vick before Vick, only he lived up to the hype despite injuries.



Overall, can't beat Johnny U.
Jeff S
2007-06-08 14:20:16 UTC
I have to agree with blitzburgh.

Joe Namath validated the entire AFL with his Super Bowl victory, and with the brashness of predicting it ahead of time. It was a huge story at the time, bringing a lot of publicity to the game and to the leagues. It pointed out the disparities between the leagues and showed that the AFL was big time football.

Before the Jets Super Bowl victory, any thought of a merger would have been looked at like a merger with the USFL or XFL which were allowed to collapse under their own weight.
anonymous
2007-06-08 12:33:30 UTC
I wouldn't pick a player but I'd go with Pete Rozelle. The popularity of the game exploded with his wise moves.



"Rozelle's accomplishments are legendary, and the NFL’s many challenges during his tenure are well documented. Such things as blockbuster television contracts, the war with the competing American Football League and the resulting merger, the development of the Super Bowl into America’s premier sporting event, difficult player issues including strikes and threatened strikes, plus numerous court and legislative battles, all dominated headlines during his stewardship."
Jazzy
2007-06-08 13:11:18 UTC
Man, that is a very good question. I mean, great question. Right now, I don't know if I could say a certain player. My best guess is that the players of the time seem to be just regular people. People that the fans can relate too.
Gone but not forgotten #21Taylor
2007-06-08 15:29:17 UTC
In my opinion Joe Namath did he wasn't that great of a QB he didn't have the best number but what does everyone remember him for the guarantee he made to win the Super Bowl and he did just that he changed the way people saw football and it showed that the underdog can win in this sport of guts and determination.
Daniel B
2007-06-08 12:43:08 UTC
I'm gonna have to say Emmitt Smith. The man revolutionized the running game and still to this day holds the NFL record for rushing yards. Yeah there was Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, The Fridge, and etc... but I honestly believe that Emmitt Smith is the one who truly changed the way people look at running backs and took some of the attention off of the quarterbacks.
stoneoasis
2007-06-08 12:49:02 UTC
I'd go with Joe Nammoth. He had the predicted Super Bowl victory which, I think, helped the sport gain popularity and he was the sports first diva. If there is anyone who has had a direct impact on how football players view themselves it is Joe. He was in commercials way back when for panty hose and wore fur coats on the sidelines. Nuf said.
Bryan C
2007-06-08 13:54:08 UTC
Gale Sayers by far he and Brian Pica lo were the 1 st Bi-racial room mates in NFL history
us_fulham_fan
2007-06-08 13:23:23 UTC
Pete Rozelle. He got the NFL moving in the direction of national popularity that it enjoys to this day.
steve s
2007-06-08 12:45:07 UTC
Gale Sayers (the man was all heart when he ran the football) His story increased the NFL fan base two fold.
Mickey Mantle
2007-06-08 12:58:37 UTC
Jim Brown without a doubt....completely changed the game and brought to us by TV's back in the 60's....he alone made the game as popular as it is today!!
sdwillie
2007-06-08 12:31:12 UTC
Changed the most was probably Doug Williams. Not the first black quarterback by a long shot, but before him the league was stuck in the mindset that a team with a black QB couldn't win it all.
Mr. Taco
2007-06-08 12:32:13 UTC
Jim Brown. The running game is what it is today because of Brown. My second pick would be either Johnny Unitas or Joe Montana. Both changes the QB position, and offense in general.
anonymous
2007-06-08 13:35:27 UTC
Bill Walsh... the inventor of the west coast offense, and a mentor to the most respected head coaches today.........
Body by BBQ
2007-06-08 13:29:11 UTC
Willie Thrower - first black QB

Marlin Briscoe - first starting black QB

Doug Williams - first to win a SB

Gayle Sayers was probably the one that was thought of as a barrier-breaker.
Ц¢Ћîħå™
2007-06-08 12:37:21 UTC
joe montana because he led the niners to super bowl 4 times.
dwntwnbadboy
2007-06-08 12:29:29 UTC
Ryan Leaf
adam h
2007-06-08 12:39:00 UTC
mike vick. now all teams want mobile qbs. THere wasnt anyone like him before now they are sprowting up everywhere in the league
kwinder00
2007-06-08 12:28:27 UTC
neion deion! the league wouldnt be around today if he didnt play!
a rob
2007-06-08 12:31:26 UTC
bill belichick and everyone in the dynasty
Adam H
2007-06-09 08:04:52 UTC
the guy who got folks to call it

soccer.



wishes...



paris should be moved to the psych ward part of the jail and put in a frickin straight jacket if she feels like she might hurt herself.



i called partial birth abortionist, dr george tiller's clinic there in red state wichita, ks and spoke with a girl named margarite, yesterday, n, and she said they schedule 40 - 50 abortions/wk.



i called again today - 316-684-5108 - and asked a woman named rhonda if dr tiller is a christian. no answer. i asked her if she was a christian and she said that's none of your concern.



i said, you mean, no?



she shot back real snotty like, "no, i don't mean no!"



"sticks and stones..."



people offended by

language are cowards.



the idea that we created god

is preposterous.



i would never silence you

on purpose.



silence just happens when

most realize that i am the

ultimate reasoner and king of

free purposeful speech.



open wide and take yo medicine.



cool.



hillary is awesome. beautiful.



she's under alot of pressure from

the evil liars and thieves in the g, still.



she's a shoo in for the dem nom.



ron paul will get the rep nom.



nahmean, mon?



visit rule 9,



p198.ezboard.com/bfastforward4...



if u find the time

and courage, fine

one.



stevie buckingham

is one of my phvcking, damn

favorite singers of all time.



flee to the woods, jack

and don't look back no

mo no mo no mo no m000ooo......



bush only seems like he's

the worst president because

of all the degradation of society

and the planet we've experienced,

since the carter admin and the secret

evil intents he and the gang might have

in store for us.



thanks for the invitation, mate.



have a khorosho day.



nancy grace and the browns would

be seeking to have oj simpson punished

more harshly if they really believed oj murdered

nicole and her adulterous lover, ron goldman.



unless they really didn't love nicole.



science could prove the existence

of a real vast right wing conspiracy,

and the credibility, superiority and

efficacy of christianity as it must be

practiced - without lies and deceptions

- if it chose.



with a little examination of hr 418 of

2005 is the most important legislation

of all time.





proportion distortions of the magnitude

of howards stern, et als' sexually explicit

messages, create the need and market for abortions.



guliani wants more public money for abortions?



blair would sooner have some troops

killed in iraq than be called a wanker.



he might be secretly homersexual.



perhaps he and his wife swing

with bono and some children when

they're in amsterdam.



we need a alot of people to supervise morality.



freedom of religion is only

good when the religious obey

their gods' commandments peaceably.



a common move is for folks to

yell, "freedom from religion."



lies, deception, dishonesty, whatever

enlightening word you useth - absence of

truth - is the root of all evil.



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews christians and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!!:hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



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WillybbbbbbMessage #155

06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video....



memorizing events that

keep happening over and over

again, helps one adapt to the

present.



things everybody knows and deliberates

to take for granted and/or ignore.



how wonderful.





click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video....



scooter libby tried to get

fellow american valerie plame killed, and the

media is promoting the possibility

that he'll get pardoned.



that's outrageous!



he should be tried for treason.



lies are the roots of all evil.



icky thump is a killer track.



check it out



i don't really want to

say those words where

i can.



i'm like a li'l child with

his neuropathways straightened

some.



folks who get offended by words

are pathetic phvcking cowards.



yshwa hu ha maleck,

viddy da shee awt L he

hmm vaught ha err etz

oo ye heh ye all.



survivor should have a season

in which nancy grace and oj simpson

on opposing teams.



i'm banned from the survivor sucks

board and alot of other ones, too,

because few of you can handle the truth.



cambodia is the natural habitat of many

8 yo prostitutes.



oh no!



got the suck?



not the truck!



hot water off a duck.



shot a buck.



it's not how it looks.



i'll swear on my uncle chuck's

grave if he dies.



shux



i confess,



i support the troops staying alive.



i, i , i, i, stayyyyin aliiiiiiiihiiiiiiihiiiiiiive.....



what if the naturally selected leader of iraq,

after we get done phvckin it up more tries to get

every man woman and child to receive a mark

in order to buy and sell?



would you be christian, then?



if your not a christian, the fact that our

elected leaders claim to be, for the most part,

is reason enough to investigate christianity in

order to form a more perfect union with the

gang of liars and thieves getting fat paid and

closely guarded.



what if 2 ms 13 murderers who

know the shooter in a drug deal gone awry,

use that valium technique and identify

the wrong guy and pass their lie detector

tests?



would the police give up

trying to find the real killer?



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices

of them wishin to escape justice.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews, christians, and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!! :hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab

aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



Getting at the truth behind lie detectors



Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

During a lie-detector test, sensors are hooked up to monitor the subject, with data recorded on a moving strip of paper or a computer. As the interrogator asks questions, he or she looks for changes that could indicate heightened stress.



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School counselor gets millions after typo

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Most viewed on MSNBC.com

Ethiopian Troops Kill 5 Somali Civilians

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U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3,473

Abbas, Olmert to Try to Mend Cease-Fire

Diplomats: Iran Hinted at Suspension

Most viewed on MSNBC.com

Mount Laurel woman sentenced for killing grandson

13-year-old w-i-n-s National Spelling Bee

Modernizing, Saudi-style

New mayor is transsexual, and so is partner

CDC links contact solution brand to infection

Most viewed on MSNBC.com

By David Ropeik

MSNBC contributor

July 24, 2001 - Is Rep. Gary Condit telling the truth? Did Bill Clinton? Richard Nixon? Wouldn’t it be great if there was a machine that could reliably detect liars? There is. But even lie detectors don’t always yield the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.



The lie detector machinery of today is based on the same premise the ancient Chinese used to catch liars; the stress of being caught lying causes changes in bodily functions, changes that can be detected.



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WillybbbbbbMessage #155

06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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jat3

`,`,`s

yes i'll at least pretend.



ive got some news new to me.



i bet these folks listen to 3 6 mafia.



http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/new...



since then, alot

of politicians have

joined myspace.



hillary, ron paul, barack,

and alot of other govt officials

have accounts.



it's a great way to have

your say.



my poet is broke,



like melisande's.



myspace is part of

the way of the future.



call and email your congressional rep

and complain about it.



congress.org



thanks for the compliment.



good poets are pretty easy to find.



many lying thieves in government claim to be christians and jews and will make decisions based on the influence of religion.



seperation of church and state is not practical with churches in the state.



it was a good idea when the church tortured like torquemada and molests it's children.



it is still a good idea when church leaders lie and obfuscate to separate church and state.



lie detection in every phone and mic will result in the creation of the true church.



mexico has hotels, resorts and drug dealers enough

to provide jobs for the illegals coming here to work.



http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/new...



those negroes probably voted for marsha blackburn.



they should have put her in a straight jacket, not back in her mansion.



if she wants to keep her money, the jews will make her receive a tether in on or under her precious flesh, any time now, unless the anti christ is stopped.



even christians don't believe in the mark of the beast.



everybody is just fine with other people being slaves.





http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/new...



i'm insulted everytime

someone takes offense

to words.



u fvcking pathetic babies must grow up.



jesus christ!



does the concept,

"sticks and stones may break

bones, but words may never harm,"

only apply to white children?



fear may be love.



determining what is

and what is not is tricky.



the stream of conciousness's

banks are made of lies and deceptions.



the mossad motto is "win by deception"



israel has artillery.



any questions?



something besides fear itself

to fear.



deliberate ignorance.



fear of fear is ridiculous.



fear of fear is irrational.



for god's will to be accomplished,

in a good way, you must all wish

good



fear is manifest in chemical

neurophysiological reactions

to potentially dangerous stimuli.





discomfort and instinctive

reactions to flea the presence

of growling pitbulls screaming for

vengence and foaming at the mouth

and blood dripping from their teeth, is

a healthy

fear.



irrational fears are even justified

by the presence of the unknown.



it is known and unacknowledged by

the lying thieves, that even the least

bit of reverence for fear itself is a sin

of ignorance, perhaps, but a sin, no less.



that's how theft is primarily facilitated.



poverty, anguish, rejection, eternal

torment are real things to fear.



if you face your fears and

live to tell it, there will still

be real things to fear.



concious contact with the highest power

will then soon manifest.



those who oppose true enlightenment

be blessed with eternal tor,`,`,ent,

no`,`,`.



if they bored you

that much, you'd

quit reading it.



more could be accomplished if decisions were

made based on the frickin merits of the situation instead of party loyalty.



i just called partial birth abortionist dr george tiller's

clinic in wichita, ks 316-684-5108 and asked how many abortions they perform per week.



kansas is a red state.



WOMEN'S HEALTH CARE SERVICES, P.A.

5107 East Kellogg

Wichita, Kansas USA 67218

316-684-5108

800-882-0488 Toll Free in US

316-684-0052 Fax





the receptionist, named margarite, said they schedule 40 - 50.









todd tiahrt is the christian republican representative of wichita, ks 4th dist.



partial birth abortionist, dr george tiller practices there.



http://www.drtiller.com/medir.html...



kansas is supposedly a red state, too.



that makes no sense.



murderers and most rapists should

be executed.



largely self-fulfilling. ron paul should get with her.



clinton/paul '08



ag john allan tate iii



illegals in schools and on social security means the illegals are enumerated to a degree.



the federal employees who facilitated the registration of illegal aliens in school and on soc sec, should be arrested and prosecuted.





jeff ruby probably viddies

himself a tough gangsta tony

soprano kind of fancy restaurateur.



not letting alleged murderer oj eat

in his fine establishment is a slap in

the face of humanity. he should

have him whacked.



join waroc seizer's war on abuse.



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starbucks supports nambla.



keep me posted.





click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video....



memorizing events that

keep happening over and over

again, helps one adapt to the

present.



things everybody knows and deliberates

to take for granted and/or ignore.



how wonderful.





click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video....



scooter libby tried to get

fellow american valerie plame killed, and the

media is promoting the possibility

that he'll get pardoned.



that's outrageous!



he should be tried for treason.



lies are the roots of all evil.



icky thump is a killer track.



check it out



i don't really want to

say those words where

i can.



i'm like a li'l child with

his neuropathways straightened

some.



folks who get offended by words

are pathetic phvcking cowards.



yshwa hu ha maleck,

viddy da shee awt L he

hmm vaught ha err etz

oo ye heh ye all.



survivor should have a season

in which nancy grace and oj simpson

on opposing teams.



i'm banned from the survivor sucks

board and alot of other ones, too,

because few of you can handle the truth.



cambodia is the natural habitat of many

8 yo prostitutes.



oh no!



got the suck?



not the truck!



hot water off a duck.



shot a buck.



it's not how it looks.



i'll swear on my uncle chuck's

grave if he dies.



shux



i confess,



i support the troops staying alive.



i, i , i, i, stayyyyin aliiiiiiiihiiiiiiihiiiiiiive.....



what if the naturally selected leader of iraq,

after we get done phvckin it up more tries to get

every man woman and child to receive a mark

in order to buy and sell?



would you be christian, then?



if your not a christian, the fact that our

elected leaders claim to be, for the most part,

is reason enough to investigate christianity in

order to form a more perfect union with the

gang of liars and thieves getting fat paid and

closely guarded.



what if 2 ms 13 murderers who

know the shooter in a drug deal gone awry,

use that valium technique and identify

the wrong guy and pass their lie detector

tests?



would the police give up

trying to find the real killer?



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices

of them wishin to escape justice.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews, christians, and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!! :hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab

aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



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Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

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06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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`,`,`s



click on icky thump

www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/vid...



memorizing events that

keep happening over and over

again, helps one adapt to the

present.



things everybody knows and deliberates

to take for granted and/or ignore.



how wonderful.





click on icky thump

www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/vid...



scooter libby tried to get

fellow american valerie plame killed, and the

media is promoting the possibility

that he'll get pardoned.



that's outrageous!



he should be tried for treason.



lies are the roots of all evil.



icky thump is a killer track.



check it out



i don't really want to

say those words where

i can.



i'm like a li'l child with

his neuropathways straightened

some.



folks who get offended by words

are pathetic phvcking cowards.



yshwa hu ha maleck,

viddy da shee awt L he

hmm vaught ha err etz

oo ye heh ye all.



survivor should have a season

in which nancy grace and oj simpson

on opposing teams.



i'm banned from the survivor sucks

board and alot of other ones, too,

because few of you can handle the truth.



cambodia is the natural habitat of many

8 yo prostitutes.



oh no!



got the suck?



not the truck!



hot water off a duck.



shot a buck.



it's not how it looks.



i'll swear on my uncle chuck's

grave if he dies.



shux



i confess,



i support the troops staying alive.



i, i , i, i, stayyyyin aliiiiiiiihiiiiiiihiiiiiiive.....



what if the naturally selected leader of iraq,

after we get done phvckin it up more tries to get

every man woman and child to receive a mark

in order to buy and sell?



would you be christian, then?



if your not a christian, the fact that our

elected leaders claim to be, for the most part,

is reason enough to investigate christianity in

order to form a more perfect union with the

gang of liars and thieves getting fat paid and

closely guarded.



what if 2 ms 13 murderers who

know the shooter in a drug deal gone awry,

use that valium technique and identify

the wrong guy and pass their lie detector

tests?



would the police give up

trying to find the real killer?



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices

of them wishin to escape justice.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews, christians, and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!! :hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab

aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



Getting at the truth behind lie detectors



Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

During a lie-detector test, sensors are hooked up to monitor the subject, with data recorded on a moving strip of paper or a computer. As the interrogator asks questions, he or she looks for changes that could indicate heightened stress.



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The lie detector machinery of today is based on the same premise the ancient Chinese used to catch liars; the stress of being caught lying causes changes in bodily functions, changes that can be detected.



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06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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jat3

`,`,`s





"sticks and stones..."



people offended by

language are cowards.



the idea that we created god

is preposterous.



i would never silence you

on purpose.



silence just happens when

most realize that i am the

ultimate reasoner and king of

free purposeful speech.



open wide and take yo medicine.



cool.



hillary is awesome. beautiful.



she's under alot of pressure from

the evil liars and thieves in the g, still.



she's a shoo in for the dem nom.



ron paul will get the rep nom.



nahmean, mon?



visit rule 9,



p198.ezboard.com/bfastforward4...



if u find the time

and courage, fine

one.



stevie buckingham

is one of my phvcking, damn

favorite singers of all time.



flee to the woods, jack

and don't look back no

mo no mo no mo no m000ooo......



bush only seems like he's

the worst president because

of all the degradation of society

and the planet we've experienced,

since the carter admin and the secret

evil intents he and the gang might have

in store for us.



thanks for the invitation, mate.



have a khorosho day.



nancy grace and the browns would

be seeking to have oj simpson punished

more harshly if they really believed oj murdered

nicole and her adulterous lover, ron goldman.



unless they really didn't love nicole.



science could prove the existence

of a real vast right wing conspiracy,

and the credibility, superiority and

efficacy of christianity as it must be

practiced - without lies and deceptions

- if it chose.



with a little examination of hr 418 of

2005 is the most important legislation

of all time.





proportion distortions of the magnitude

of howards stern, et als' sexually explicit

messages, create the need and market for abortions.



guliani wants more public money for abortions?



blair would sooner have some troops

killed in iraq than be called a wanker.



he might be secretly homersexual.



perhaps he and his wife swing

with bono and some children when

they're in amsterdam.



we need a alot of people to supervise morality.



freedom of religion is only

good when the religious obey

their gods' commandments peaceably.



a common move is for folks to

yell, "freedom from religion."



lies, deception, dishonesty, whatever

enlightening word you useth - absence of

truth - is the root of all evil.



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews christians and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!!:hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



Getting at the truth behind lie detectors



Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

During a lie-detector test, sensors are hooked up to monitor the subject, with data recorded on a moving strip of paper or a computer. As the interrogator asks questions, he or she looks for changes that could indicate heightened stress.



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July 24, 2001 - Is Rep. Gary Condit telling the truth? Did Bill Clinton? Richard Nixon? Wouldn’t it be great if there was a machine that could reliably detect liars? There is. But even lie detectors don’t always yield the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.



The lie detector machinery of today is based on the same premise the ancient Chinese used to catch liars; the stress of being caught lying causes changes in bodily functions, changes that can be detected.



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06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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President '08



click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video....



memorizing events that

keep happening over and over

again, helps one adapt to the

present.



things everybody knows and deliberates

to take for granted and/or ignore.



how wonderful.





click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video....



scooter libby tried to get

fellow american valerie plame killed, and the

media is promoting the possibility

that he'll get pardoned.



that's outrageous!



he should be tried for treason.



lies are the roots of all evil.



icky thump is a killer track.



check it out



i don't really want to

say those words where

i can.



i'm like a li'l child with

his neuropathways straightened

some.



folks who get offended by words

are pathetic phvcking cowards.



yshwa hu ha maleck,

viddy da shee awt L he

hmm vaught ha err etz

oo ye heh ye all.



survivor should have a season

in which nancy grace and oj simpson

on opposing teams.



i'm banned from the survivor sucks

board and alot of other ones, too,

because few of you can handle the truth.



cambodia is the natural habitat of many

8 yo prostitutes.



oh no!



got the suck?



not the truck!



hot water off a duck.



shot a buck.



it's not how it looks.



i'll swear on my uncle chuck's

grave if he dies.



shux



i confess,



i support the troops staying alive.



i, i , i, i, stayyyyin aliiiiiiiihiiiiiiihiiiiiiive.....



what if the naturally selected leader of iraq,

after we get done phvckin it up more tries to get

every man woman and child to receive a mark

in order to buy and sell?



would you be christian, then?



if your not a christian, the fact that our

elected leaders claim to be, for the most part,

is reason enough to investigate christianity in

order to form a more perfect union with the

gang of liars and thieves getting fat paid and

closely guarded.



what if 2 ms 13 murderers who

know the shooter in a drug deal gone awry,

use that valium technique and identify

the wrong guy and pass their lie detector

tests?



would the police give up

trying to find the real killer?



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices

of them wishin to escape justice.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews, christians, and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!! :hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab

aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



Getting at the truth behind lie detectors



Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

During a lie-detector test, sensors are hooked up to monitor the subject, with data recorded on a moving strip of paper or a computer. As the interrogator asks questions, he or she looks for changes that could indicate heightened stress.



Most popular

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Border agent ignored warning for TB traveler

School counselor gets millions after typo

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Sunni insurgents battle in Baghdad

Most viewed on MSNBC.com

Ethiopian Troops Kill 5 Somali Civilians

Sunnis Revolt Against al-Qaida in Iraq

U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3,473

Abbas, Olmert to Try to Mend Cease-Fire

Diplomats: Iran Hinted at Suspension

Most viewed on MSNBC.com

Mount Laurel woman sentenced for killing grandson

13-year-old w-i-n-s National Spelling Bee

Modernizing, Saudi-style

New mayor is transsexual, and so is partner

CDC links contact solution brand to infection

Most viewed on MSNBC.com

By David Ropeik

MSNBC contributor

July 24, 2001 - Is Rep. Gary Condit telling the truth? Did Bill Clinton? Richard Nixon? Wouldn’t it be great if there was a machine that could reliably detect liars? There is. But even lie detectors don’t always yield the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.



The lie detector machinery of today is based on the same premise the ancient Chinese used to catch liars; the stress of being caught lying causes changes in bodily functions, changes that can be detected.



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06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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jat3

`,`,`s

yes i'll at least pretend.



ive got some news new to me.



i bet these folks listen to 3 6 mafia.



http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/new...



since then, alot

of politicians have

joined myspace.



hillary, ron paul, barack,

and alot of other govt officials

have accounts.



it's a great way to have

your say.



my poet is broke,



like melisande's.



myspace is part of

the way of the future.



call and email your congressional rep

and complain about it.



congress.org



thanks for the compliment.



good poets are pretty easy to find.



many lying thieves in government claim to be christians and jews and will make decisions based on the influence of religion.



seperation of church and state is not practical with churches in the state.



it was a good idea when the church tortured like torquemada and molests it's children.



it is still a good idea when church leaders lie and obfuscate to separate church and state.



lie detection in every phone and mic will result in the creation of the true church.



mexico has hotels, resorts and drug dealers enough

to provide jobs for the illegals coming here to work.



http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/new...



those negroes probably voted for marsha blackburn.



they should have put her in a straight jacket, not back in her mansion.



if she wants to keep her money, the jews will make her receive a tether in on or under her precious flesh, any time now, unless the anti christ is stopped.



even christians don't believe in the mark of the beast.



everybody is just fine with other people being slaves.





http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/new...



i'm insulted everytime

someone takes offense

to words.



u fvcking pathetic babies must grow up.



jesus christ!



does the concept,

"sticks and stones may break

bones, but words may never harm,"

only apply to white children?



fear may be love.



determining what is

and what is not is tricky.



the stream of conciousness's

banks are made of lies and deceptions.



the mossad motto is "win by deception"



israel has artillery.



any questions?



something besides fear itself

to fear.



deliberate ignorance.



fear of fear is ridiculous.



fear of fear is irrational.



for god's will to be accomplished,

in a good way, you must all wish

good



fear is manifest in chemical

neurophysiological reactions

to potentially dangerous stimuli.





discomfort and instinctive

reactions to flea the presence

of growling pitbulls screaming for

vengence and foaming at the mouth

and blood dripping from their teeth, is

a healthy

fear.



irrational fears are even justified

by the presence of the unknown.



it is known and unacknowledged by

the lying thieves, that even the least

bit of reverence for fear itself is a sin

of ignorance, perhaps, but a sin, no less.



that's how theft is primarily facilitated.



poverty, anguish, rejection, eternal

torment are real things to fear.



if you face your fears and

live to tell it, there will still

be real things to fear.



concious contact with the highest power

will then soon manifest.



those who oppose true enlightenment

be blessed with eternal tor,`,`,ent,

no`,`,`.



if they bored you

that much, you'd

quit reading it.



more could be accomplished if decisions were

made based on the frickin merits of the situation instead of party loyalty.



i just called partial birth abortionist dr george tiller's

clinic in wichita, ks 316-684-5108 and asked how many abortions they perform per week.



kansas is a red state.



WOMEN'S HEALTH CARE SERVICES, P.A.

5107 East Kellogg

Wichita, Kansas USA 67218

316-684-5108

800-882-0488 Toll Free in US

316-684-0052 Fax





the receptionist, named margarite, said they schedule 40 - 50.









todd tiahrt is the christian republican representative of wichita, ks 4th dist.



partial birth abortionist, dr george tiller practices there.



http://www.drtiller.com/medir.html...



kansas is supposedly a red state, too.



that makes no sense.



murderers and most rapists should

be executed.



largely self-fulfilling. ron paul should get with her.



clinton/paul '08



ag john allan tate iii



illegals in schools and on social security means the illegals are enumerated to a degree.



the federal employees who facilitated the registration of illegal aliens in school and on soc sec, should be arrested and prosecuted.





jeff ruby probably viddies

himself a tough gangsta tony

soprano kind of fancy restaurateur.



not letting alleged murderer oj eat

in his fine establishment is a slap in

the face of humanity. he should

have him whacked.



join waroc seizer's war on abuse.



http://www.myspace.com/warocelot...



starbucks supports nambla.



keep me posted.





click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video....



memorizing events that

keep happening over and over

again, helps one adapt to the

present.



things everybody knows and deliberates

to take for granted and/or ignore.



how wonderful.





click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video....



scooter libby tried to get

fellow american valerie plame killed, and the

media is promoting the possibility

that he'll get pardoned.



that's outrageous!



he should be tried for treason.



lies are the roots of all evil.



icky thump is a killer track.



check it out



i don't really want to

say those words where

i can.



i'm like a li'l child with

his neuropathways straightened

some.



folks who get offended by words

are pathetic phvcking cowards.



yshwa hu ha maleck,

viddy da shee awt L he

hmm vaught ha err etz

oo ye heh ye all.



survivor should have a season

in which nancy grace and oj simpson

on opposing teams.



i'm banned from the survivor sucks

board and alot of other ones, too,

because few of you can handle the truth.



cambodia is the natural habitat of many

8 yo prostitutes.



oh no!



got the suck?



not the truck!



hot water off a duck.



shot a buck.



it's not how it looks.



i'll swear on my uncle chuck's

grave if he dies.



shux



i confess,



i support the troops staying alive.



i, i , i, i, stayyyyin aliiiiiiiihiiiiiiihiiiiiiive.....



what if the naturally selected leader of iraq,

after we get done phvckin it up more tries to get

every man woman and child to receive a mark

in order to buy and sell?



would you be christian, then?



if your not a christian, the fact that our

elected leaders claim to be, for the most part,

is reason enough to investigate christianity in

order to form a more perfect union with the

gang of liars and thieves getting fat paid and

closely guarded.



what if 2 ms 13 murderers who

know the shooter in a drug deal gone awry,

use that valium technique and identify

the wrong guy and pass their lie detector

tests?



would the police give up

trying to find the real killer?



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices

of them wishin to escape justice.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews, christians, and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!! :hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab

aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



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Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

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06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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jat3

`,`,`s



click on icky thump

www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/vid...



memorizing events that

keep happening over and over

again, helps one adapt to the

present.



things everybody knows and deliberates

to take for granted and/or ignore.



how wonderful.





click on icky thump

www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/vid...



scooter libby tried to get

fellow american valerie plame killed, and the

media is promoting the possibility

that he'll get pardoned.



that's outrageous!



he should be tried for treason.



lies are the roots of all evil.



icky thump is a killer track.



check it out



i don't really want to

say those words where

i can.



i'm like a li'l child with

his neuropathways straightened

some.



folks who get offended by words

are pathetic phvcking cowards.



yshwa hu ha maleck,

viddy da shee awt L he

hmm vaught ha err etz

oo ye heh ye all.



survivor should have a season

in which nancy grace and oj simpson

on opposing teams.



i'm banned from the survivor sucks

board and alot of other ones, too,

because few of you can handle the truth.



cambodia is the natural habitat of many

8 yo prostitutes.



oh no!



got the suck?



not the truck!



hot water off a duck.



shot a buck.



it's not how it looks.



i'll swear on my uncle chuck's

grave if he dies.



shux



i confess,



i support the troops staying alive.



i, i , i, i, stayyyyin aliiiiiiiihiiiiiiihiiiiiiive.....



what if the naturally selected leader of iraq,

after we get done phvckin it up more tries to get

every man woman and child to receive a mark

in order to buy and sell?



would you be christian, then?



if your not a christian, the fact that our

elected leaders claim to be, for the most part,

is reason enough to investigate christianity in

order to form a more perfect union with the

gang of liars and thieves getting fat paid and

closely guarded.



what if 2 ms 13 murderers who

know the shooter in a drug deal gone awry,

use that valium technique and identify

the wrong guy and pass their lie detector

tests?



would the police give up

trying to find the real killer?



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices

of them wishin to escape justice.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews, christians, and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!! :hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab

aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



Getting at the truth behind lie detectors



Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

During a lie-detector test, sensors are hooked up to monitor the subject, with data recorded on a moving strip of paper or a computer. As the interrogator asks questions, he or she looks for changes that could indicate heightened stress.



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By David Ropeik

MSNBC contributor

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The lie detector machinery of today is based on the same premise the ancient Chinese used to catch liars; the stress of being caught lying causes changes in bodily functions, changes that can be detected.



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WillybbbbbbMessage #155

06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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the guy who got folks to call it

soccer.



wishes...



paris should be moved to the psych ward part of the jail and put in a frickin straight jacket if she feels like she might hurt herself.



i called partial birth abortionist, dr george tiller's clinic there in red state wichita, ks and spoke with a girl named margarite, yesterday, n, and she said they schedule 40 - 50 abortions/wk.



i called again today - 316-684-5108 - and asked a woman named rhonda if dr tiller is a christian. no answer. i asked her if she was a christian and she said that's none of your concern.



i said, you mean, no?



she shot back real snotty like, "no, i don't mean no!"



"sticks and stones..."



people offended by

language are cowards.



the idea that we created god

is preposterous.



i would never silence you

on purpose.



silence just happens when

most realize that i am the

ultimate reasoner and king of

free purposeful speech.



open wide and take yo medicine.



cool.



hillary is awesome. beautiful.



she's under alot of pressure from

the evil liars and thieves in the g, still.



she's a shoo in for the dem nom.



ron paul will get the rep nom.



nahmean, mon?



visit rule 9,



p198.ezboard.com/bfastforward41199



if u find the time

and courage, fine

one.



stevie buckingham

is one of my phvcking, damn

favorite singers of all time.



flee to the woods, jack

and don't look back no

mo no mo no mo no m000ooo......



bush only seems like he's

the worst president because

of all the degradation of society

and the planet we've experienced,

since the carter admin and the secret

evil intents he and the gang might have

in store for us.



thanks for the invitation, mate.



have a khorosho day.



nancy grace and the browns would

be seeking to have oj simpson punished

more harshly if they really believed oj murdered

nicole and her adulterous lover, ron goldman.



unless they really didn't love nicole.



science could prove the existence

of a real vast right wing conspiracy,

and the credibility, superiority and

efficacy of christianity as it must be

practiced - without lies and deceptions

- if it chose.



with a little examination of hr 418 of

2005 is the most important legislation

of all time.





proportion distortions of the magnitude

of howards stern, et als' sexually explicit

messages, create the need and market for abortions.



guliani wants more public money for abortions?



blair would sooner have some troops

killed in iraq than be called a wanker.



he might be secretly homersexual.



perhaps he and his wife swing

with bono and some children when

they're in amsterdam.



we need a alot of people to supervise morality.



freedom of religion is only

good when the religious obey

their gods' commandments peaceably.



a common move is for folks to

yell, "freedom from religion."



lies, deception, dishonesty, whatever

enlightening word you useth - absence of

truth - is the root of all evil.



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews christians and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!!:hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



Getting at the truth behind lie detectors



Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

During a lie-detector test, sensors are hooked up to monitor the subject, with data recorded on a moving strip of paper or a computer. As the interrogator asks questions, he or she looks for changes that could indicate heightened stress.



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The lie detector machinery of today is based on the same premise the ancient Chinese used to catch liars; the stress of being caught lying causes changes in bodily functions, changes that can be detected.



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06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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red rod order

President '08



click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video.html



memorizing events that

keep happening over and over

again, helps one adapt to the

present.



things everybody knows and deliberates

to take for granted and/or ignore.



how wonderful.





click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video.html



scooter libby tried to get

fellow american valerie plame killed, and the

media is promoting the possibility

that he'll get pardoned.



that's outrageous!



he should be tried for treason.



lies are the roots of all evil.



icky thump is a killer track.



check it out



i don't really want to

say those words where

i can.



i'm like a li'l child with

his neuropathways straightened

some.



folks who get offended by words

are pathetic phvcking cowards.



yshwa hu ha maleck,

viddy da shee awt L he

hmm vaught ha err etz

oo ye heh ye all.



survivor should have a season

in which nancy grace and oj simpson

on opposing teams.



i'm banned from the survivor sucks

board and alot of other ones, too,

because few of you can handle the truth.



cambodia is the natural habitat of many

8 yo prostitutes.



oh no!



got the suck?



not the truck!



hot water off a duck.



shot a buck.



it's not how it looks.



i'll swear on my uncle chuck's

grave if he dies.



shux



i confess,



i support the troops staying alive.



i, i , i, i, stayyyyin aliiiiiiiihiiiiiiihiiiiiiive...



what if the naturally selected leader of iraq,

after we get done phvckin it up more tries to get

every man woman and child to receive a mark

in order to buy and sell?



would you be christian, then?



if your not a christian, the fact that our

elected leaders claim to be, for the most part,

is reason enough to investigate christianity in

order to form a more perfect union with the

gang of liars and thieves getting fat paid and

closely guarded.



what if 2 ms 13 murderers who

know the shooter in a drug deal gone awry,

use that valium technique and identify

the wrong guy and pass their lie detector

tests?



would the police give up

trying to find the real killer?



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices

of them wishin to escape justice.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews, christians, and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!! :hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab

aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



Getting at the truth behind lie detectors



Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

During a lie-detector test, sensors are hooked up to monitor the subject, with data recorded on a moving strip of paper or a computer. As the interrogator asks questions, he or she looks for changes that could indicate heightened stress.



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Sunni insurgents battle in Baghdad

Most viewed on MSNBC.com

Ethiopian Troops Kill 5 Somali Civilians

Sunnis Revolt Against al-Qaida in Iraq

U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3,473

Abbas, Olmert to Try to Mend Cease-Fire

Diplomats: Iran Hinted at Suspension

Most viewed on MSNBC.com

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13-year-old w-i-n-s National Spelling Bee

Modernizing, Saudi-style

New mayor is transsexual, and so is partner

CDC links contact solution brand to infection

Most viewed on MSNBC.com

By David Ropeik

MSNBC contributor

July 24, 2001 - Is Rep. Gary Condit telling the truth? Did Bill Clinton? Richard Nixon? Wouldn’t it be great if there was a machine that could reliably detect liars? There is. But even lie detectors don’t always yield the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.



The lie detector machinery of today is based on the same premise the ancient Chinese used to catch liars; the stress of being caught lying causes changes in bodily functions, changes that can be detected.



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06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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jat3

`,`,`s

yes i'll at least pretend.



ive got some news new to me.



i bet these folks listen to 3 6 mafia.



http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp



since then, alot

of politicians have

joined myspace.



hillary, ron paul, barack,

and alot of other govt officials

have accounts.



it's a great way to have

your say.



my poet is broke,



like melisande's.



myspace is part of

the way of the future.



call and email your congressional rep

and complain about it.



congress.org



thanks for the compliment.



good poets are pretty easy to find.



many lying thieves in government claim to be christians and jews and will make decisions based on the influence of religion.



seperation of church and state is not practical with churches in the state.



it was a good idea when the church tortured like torquemada and molests it's children.



it is still a good idea when church leaders lie and obfuscate to separate church and state.



lie detection in every phone and mic will result in the creation of the true church.



mexico has hotels, resorts and drug dealers enough

to provide jobs for the illegals coming here to work.



http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp



those negroes probably voted for marsha blackburn.



they should have put her in a straight jacket, not back in her mansion.



if she wants to keep her money, the jews will make her receive a tether in on or under her precious flesh, any time now, unless the anti christ is stopped.



even christians don't believe in the mark of the beast.



everybody is just fine with other people being slaves.





http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp



i'm insulted everytime

someone takes offense

to words.



u fvcking pathetic babies must grow up.



jesus christ!



does the concept,

"sticks and stones may break

bones, but words may never harm,"

only apply to white children?



fear may be love.



determining what is

and what is not is tricky.



the stream of conciousness's

banks are made of lies and deceptions.



the mossad motto is "win by deception"



israel has artillery.



any questions?



something besides fear itself

to fear.



deliberate ignorance.



fear of fear is ridiculous.



fear of fear is irrational.



for god's will to be accomplished,

in a good way, you must all wish

good



fear is manifest in chemical

neurophysiological reactions

to potentially dangerous stimuli.





discomfort and instinctive

reactions to flea the presence

of growling pitbulls screaming for

vengence and foaming at the mouth

and blood dripping from their teeth, is

a healthy

fear.



irrational fears are even justified

by the presence of the unknown.



it is known and unacknowledged by

the lying thieves, that even the least

bit of reverence for fear itself is a sin

of ignorance, perhaps, but a sin, no less.



that's how theft is primarily facilitated.



poverty, anguish, rejection, eternal

torment are real things to fear.



if you face your fears and

live to tell it, there will still

be real things to fear.



concious contact with the highest power

will then soon manifest.



those who oppose true enlightenment

be blessed with eternal tor,`,`,ent,

no`,`,`.



if they bored you

that much, you'd

quit reading it.



more could be accomplished if decisions were

made based on the frickin merits of the situation instead of party loyalty.



i just called partial birth abortionist dr george tiller's

clinic in wichita, ks 316-684-5108 and asked how many abortions they perform per week.



kansas is a red state.



WOMEN'S HEALTH CARE SERVICES, P.A.

5107 East Kellogg

Wichita, Kansas USA 67218

316-684-5108

800-882-0488 Toll Free in US

316-684-0052 Fax





the receptionist, named margarite, said they schedule 40 - 50.









todd tiahrt is the christian republican representative of wichita, ks 4th dist.



partial birth abortionist, dr george tiller practices there.



http://www.drtiller.com/medir.html



kansas is supposedly a red state, too.



that makes no sense.



murderers and most rapists should

be executed.



largely self-fulfilling. ron paul should get with her.



clinton/paul '08



ag john allan tate iii



illegals in schools and on social security means the illegals are enumerated to a degree.



the federal employees who facilitated the registration of illegal aliens in school and on soc sec, should be arrested and prosecuted.





jeff ruby probably viddies

himself a tough gangsta tony

soprano kind of fancy restaurateur.



not letting alleged murderer oj eat

in his fine establishment is a slap in

the face of humanity. he should

have him whacked.



join waroc seizer's war on abuse.



http://www.myspace.com/warocelot



starbucks supports nambla.



keep me posted.





click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video.html



memorizing events that

keep happening over and over

again, helps one adapt to the

present.



things everybody knows and deliberates

to take for granted and/or ignore.



how wonderful.





click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video.html



scooter libby tried to get

fellow american valerie plame killed, and the

media is promoting the possibility

that he'll get pardoned.



that's outrageous!



he should be tried for treason.



lies are the roots of all evil.



icky thump is a killer track.



check it out



i don't really want to

say those words where

i can.



i'm like a li'l child with

his neuropathways straightened

some.



folks who get offended by words

are pathetic phvcking cowards.



yshwa hu ha maleck,

viddy da shee awt L he

hmm vaught ha err etz

oo ye heh ye all.



survivor should have a season

in which nancy grace and oj simpson

on opposing teams.



i'm banned from the survivor sucks

board and alot of other ones, too,

because few of you can handle the truth.



cambodia is the natural habitat of many

8 yo prostitutes.



oh no!



got the suck?



not the truck!



hot water off a duck.



shot a buck.



it's not how it looks.



i'll swear on my uncle chuck's

grave if he dies.



shux



i confess,



i support the troops staying alive.



i, i , i, i, stayyyyin aliiiiiiiihiiiiiiihiiiiiiive...



what if the naturally selected leader of iraq,

after we get done phvckin it up more tries to get

every man woman and child to receive a mark

in order to buy and sell?



would you be christian, then?



if your not a christian, the fact that our

elected leaders claim to be, for the most part,

is reason enough to investigate christianity in

order to form a more perfect union with the

gang of liars and thieves getting fat paid and

closely guarded.



what if 2 ms 13 murderers who

know the shooter in a drug deal gone awry,

use that valium technique and identify

the wrong guy and pass their lie detector

tests?



would the police give up

trying to find the real killer?



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices

of them wishin to escape justice.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews, christians, and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!! :hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab

aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



Getting at the truth behind lie detectors



Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

During a lie-detector test, sensors are hooked up to monitor the subject, with data recorded on a moving strip of paper or a computer. As the interrogator asks questions, he or she looks for changes that could indicate heightened stress.



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The lie detector machinery of today is based on the same premise the ancient Chinese used to catch liars; the stress of being caught lying causes changes in bodily functions, changes that can be detected.



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06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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`,`,`s



click on icky thump

www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video.html



memorizing events that

keep happening over and over

again, helps one adapt to the

present.



things everybody knows and deliberates

to take for granted and/or ignore.



how wonderful.





click on icky thump

www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video.html



scooter libby tried to get

fellow american valerie plame killed, and the

media is promoting the possibility

that he'll get pardoned.



that's outrageous!



he should be tried for treason.



lies are the roots of all evil.



icky thump is a killer track.



check it out



i don't really want to

say those words where

i can.



i'm like a li'l child with

his neuropathways straightened

some.



folks who get offended by words

are pathetic phvcking cowards.



yshwa hu ha maleck,

viddy da shee awt L he

hmm vaught ha err etz

oo ye heh ye all.



survivor should have a season

in which nancy grace and oj simpson

on opposing teams.



i'm banned from the survivor sucks

board and alot of other ones, too,

because few of you can handle the truth.



cambodia is the natural habitat of many

8 yo prostitutes.



oh no!



got the suck?



not the truck!



hot water off a duck.



shot a buck.



it's not how it looks.



i'll swear on my uncle chuck's

grave if he dies.



shux



i confess,



i support the troops staying alive.



i, i , i, i, stayyyyin aliiiiiiiihiiiiiiihiiiiiiive...



what if the naturally selected leader of iraq,

after we get done phvckin it up more tries to get

every man woman and child to receive a mark

in order to buy and sell?



would you be christian, then?



if your not a christian, the fact that our

elected leaders claim to be, for the most part,

is reason enough to investigate christianity in

order to form a more perfect union with the

gang of liars and thieves getting fat paid and

closely guarded.



what if 2 ms 13 murderers who

know the shooter in a drug deal gone awry,

use that valium technique and identify

the wrong guy and pass their lie detector

tests?



would the police give up

trying to find the real killer?



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices

of them wishin to escape justice.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews, christians, and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!! :hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab

aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



Getting at the truth behind lie detectors



Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

During a lie-detector test, sensors are hooked up to monitor the subject, with data recorded on a moving strip of paper or a computer. As the interrogator asks questions, he or she looks for changes that could indicate heightened stress.



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Ethiopian Troops Kill 5 Somali Civilians

Sunnis Revolt Against al-Qaida in Iraq

U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3,473

Abbas, Olmert to Try to Mend Cease-Fire

Diplomats: Iran Hinted at Suspension

Most viewed on MSNBC.com

Mount Laurel woman sentenced for killing grandson

13-year-old w-i-n-s National Spelling Bee

Modernizing, Saudi-style

New mayor is transsexual, and so is partner

CDC links contact solution brand to infection

Most viewed on MSNBC.com

By David Ropeik

MSNBC contributor

July 24, 2001 - Is Rep. Gary Condit telling the truth? Did Bill Clinton? Richard Nixon? Wouldn’t it be great if there was a machine that could reliably detect liars? There is. But even lie detectors don’t always yield the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.



The lie detector machinery of today is based on the same premise the ancient Chinese used to catch liars; the stress of being caught lying causes changes in bodily functions, changes that can be detected.



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WillybbbbbbMessage #155

06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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jat3

`,`,`s





"sticks and stones..."



people offended by

language are cowards.



the idea that we created god

is preposterous.



i would never silence you

on purpose.



silence just happens when

most realize that i am the

ultimate reasoner and king of

free purposeful speech.



open wide and take yo medicine.



cool.



hillary is awesome. beautiful.



she's under alot of pressure from

the evil liars and thieves in the g, still.



she's a shoo in for the dem nom.



ron paul will get the rep nom.



nahmean, mon?



visit rule 9,



p198.ezboard.com/bfastforward41199



if u find the time

and courage, fine

one.



stevie buckingham

is one of my phvcking, damn

favorite singers of all time.



flee to the woods, jack

and don't look back no

mo no mo no mo no m000ooo......



bush only seems like he's

the worst president because

of all the degradation of society

and the planet we've experienced,

since the carter admin and the secret

evil intents he and the gang might have

in store for us.



thanks for the invitation, mate.



have a khorosho day.



nancy grace and the browns would

be seeking to have oj simpson punished

more harshly if they really believed oj murdered

nicole and her adulterous lover, ron goldman.



unless they really didn't love nicole.



science could prove the existence

of a real vast right wing conspiracy,

and the credibility, superiority and

efficacy of christianity as it must be

practiced - without lies and deceptions

- if it chose.



with a little examination of hr 418 of

2005 is the most important legislation

of all time.





proportion distortions of the magnitude

of howards stern, et als' sexually explicit

messages, create the need and market for abortions.



guliani wants more public money for abortions?



blair would sooner have some troops

killed in iraq than be called a wanker.



he might be secretly homersexual.



perhaps he and his wife swing

with bono and some children when

they're in amsterdam.



we need a alot of people to supervise morality.



freedom of religion is only

good when the religious obey

their gods' commandments peaceably.



a common move is for folks to

yell, "freedom from religion."



lies, deception, dishonesty, whatever

enlightening word you useth - absence of

truth - is the root of all evil.



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews christians and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!!:hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



Getting at the truth behind lie detectors



Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

During a lie-detector test, sensors are hooked up to monitor the subject, with data recorded on a moving strip of paper or a computer. As the interrogator asks questions, he or she looks for changes that could indicate heightened stress.



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Most viewed on MSNBC.com

Ethiopian Troops Kill 5 Somali Civilians

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U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3,473

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Diplomats: Iran Hinted at Suspension

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Modernizing, Saudi-style

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CDC links contact solution brand to infection

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By David Ropeik

MSNBC contributor

July 24, 2001 - Is Rep. Gary Condit telling the truth? Did Bill Clinton? Richard Nixon? Wouldn’t it be great if there was a machine that could reliably detect liars? There is. But even lie detectors don’t always yield the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.



The lie detector machinery of today is based on the same premise the ancient Chinese used to catch liars; the stress of being caught lying causes changes in bodily functions, changes that can be detected.



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06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video.html



memorizing events that

keep happening over and over

again, helps one adapt to the

present.



things everybody knows and deliberates

to take for granted and/or ignore.



how wonderful.





click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video.html



scooter libby tried to get

fellow american valerie plame killed, and the

media is promoting the possibility

that he'll get pardoned.



that's outrageous!



he should be tried for treason.



lies are the roots of all evil.



icky thump is a killer track.



check it out



i don't really want to

say those words where

i can.



i'm like a li'l child with

his neuropathways straightened

some.



folks who get offended by words

are pathetic phvcking cowards.



yshwa hu ha maleck,

viddy da shee awt L he

hmm vaught ha err etz

oo ye heh ye all.



survivor should have a season

in which nancy grace and oj simpson

on opposing teams.



i'm banned from the survivor sucks

board and alot of other ones, too,

because few of you can handle the truth.



cambodia is the natural habitat of many

8 yo prostitutes.



oh no!



got the suck?



not the truck!



hot water off a duck.



shot a buck.



it's not how it looks.



i'll swear on my uncle chuck's

grave if he dies.



shux



i confess,



i support the troops staying alive.



i, i , i, i, stayyyyin aliiiiiiiihiiiiiiihiiiiiiive...



what if the naturally selected leader of iraq,

after we get done phvckin it up more tries to get

every man woman and child to receive a mark

in order to buy and sell?



would you be christian, then?



if your not a christian, the fact that our

elected leaders claim to be, for the most part,

is reason enough to investigate christianity in

order to form a more perfect union with the

gang of liars and thieves getting fat paid and

closely guarded.



what if 2 ms 13 murderers who

know the shooter in a drug deal gone awry,

use that valium technique and identify

the wrong guy and pass their lie detector

tests?



would the police give up

trying to find the real killer?



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices

of them wishin to escape justice.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews, christians, and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!! :hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab

aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



Getting at the truth behind lie detectors



Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

During a lie-detector test, sensors are hooked up to monitor the subject, with data recorded on a moving strip of paper or a computer. As the interrogator asks questions, he or she looks for changes that could indicate heightened stress.



Most popular

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Border agent ignored warning for TB traveler

School counselor gets millions after typo

Has U.S. economy dodged a recession?

Sunni insurgents battle in Baghdad

Most viewed on MSNBC.com

Ethiopian Troops Kill 5 Somali Civilians

Sunnis Revolt Against al-Qaida in Iraq

U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3,473

Abbas, Olmert to Try to Mend Cease-Fire

Diplomats: Iran Hinted at Suspension

Most viewed on MSNBC.com

Mount Laurel woman sentenced for killing grandson

13-year-old w-i-n-s National Spelling Bee

Modernizing, Saudi-style

New mayor is transsexual, and so is partner

CDC links contact solution brand to infection

Most viewed on MSNBC.com

By David Ropeik

MSNBC contributor

July 24, 2001 - Is Rep. Gary Condit telling the truth? Did Bill Clinton? Richard Nixon? Wouldn’t it be great if there was a machine that could reliably detect liars? There is. But even lie detectors don’t always yield the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.



The lie detector machinery of today is based on the same premise the ancient Chinese used to catch liars; the stress of being caught lying causes changes in bodily functions, changes that can be detected.



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06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





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jat3

`,`,`s

yes i'll at least pretend.



ive got some news new to me.



i bet these folks listen to 3 6 mafia.



http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp



since then, alot

of politicians have

joined myspace.



hillary, ron paul, barack,

and alot of other govt officials

have accounts.



it's a great way to have

your say.



my poet is broke,



like melisande's.



myspace is part of

the way of the future.



call and email your congressional rep

and complain about it.



congress.org



thanks for the compliment.



good poets are pretty easy to find.



many lying thieves in government claim to be christians and jews and will make decisions based on the influence of religion.



seperation of church and state is not practical with churches in the state.



it was a good idea when the church tortured like torquemada and molests it's children.



it is still a good idea when church leaders lie and obfuscate to separate church and state.



lie detection in every phone and mic will result in the creation of the true church.



mexico has hotels, resorts and drug dealers enough

to provide jobs for the illegals coming here to work.



http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp



those negroes probably voted for marsha blackburn.



they should have put her in a straight jacket, not back in her mansion.



if she wants to keep her money, the jews will make her receive a tether in on or under her precious flesh, any time now, unless the anti christ is stopped.



even christians don't believe in the mark of the beast.



everybody is just fine with other people being slaves.





http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp



i'm insulted everytime

someone takes offense

to words.



u fvcking pathetic babies must grow up.



jesus christ!



does the concept,

"sticks and stones may break

bones, but words may never harm,"

only apply to white children?



fear may be love.



determining what is

and what is not is tricky.



the stream of conciousness's

banks are made of lies and deceptions.



the mossad motto is "win by deception"



israel has artillery.



any questions?



something besides fear itself

to fear.



deliberate ignorance.



fear of fear is ridiculous.



fear of fear is irrational.



for god's will to be accomplished,

in a good way, you must all wish

good



fear is manifest in chemical

neurophysiological reactions

to potentially dangerous stimuli.





discomfort and instinctive

reactions to flea the presence

of growling pitbulls screaming for

vengence and foaming at the mouth

and blood dripping from their teeth, is

a healthy

fear.



irrational fears are even justified

by the presence of the unknown.



it is known and unacknowledged by

the lying thieves, that even the least

bit of reverence for fear itself is a sin

of ignorance, perhaps, but a sin, no less.



that's how theft is primarily facilitated.



poverty, anguish, rejection, eternal

torment are real things to fear.



if you face your fears and

live to tell it, there will still

be real things to fear.



concious contact with the highest power

will then soon manifest.



those who oppose true enlightenment

be blessed with eternal tor,`,`,ent,

no`,`,`.



if they bored you

that much, you'd

quit reading it.



more could be accomplished if decisions were

made based on the frickin merits of the situation instead of party loyalty.



i just called partial birth abortionist dr george tiller's

clinic in wichita, ks 316-684-5108 and asked how many abortions they perform per week.



kansas is a red state.



WOMEN'S HEALTH CARE SERVICES, P.A.

5107 East Kellogg

Wichita, Kansas USA 67218

316-684-5108

800-882-0488 Toll Free in US

316-684-0052 Fax





the receptionist, named margarite, said they schedule 40 - 50.









todd tiahrt is the christian republican representative of wichita, ks 4th dist.



partial birth abortionist, dr george tiller practices there.



http://www.drtiller.com/medir.html



kansas is supposedly a red state, too.



that makes no sense.



murderers and most rapists should

be executed.



largely self-fulfilling. ron paul should get with her.



clinton/paul '08



ag john allan tate iii



illegals in schools and on social security means the illegals are enumerated to a degree.



the federal employees who facilitated the registration of illegal aliens in school and on soc sec, should be arrested and prosecuted.





jeff ruby probably viddies

himself a tough gangsta tony

soprano kind of fancy restaurateur.



not letting alleged murderer oj eat

in his fine establishment is a slap in

the face of humanity. he should

have him whacked.



join waroc seizer's war on abuse.



http://www.myspace.com/warocelot



starbucks supports nambla.



keep me posted.





click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video.html



memorizing events that

keep happening over and over

again, helps one adapt to the

present.



things everybody knows and deliberates

to take for granted and/or ignore.



how wonderful.





click on icky thump

http://www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video.html



scooter libby tried to get

fellow american valerie plame killed, and the

media is promoting the possibility

that he'll get pardoned.



that's outrageous!



he should be tried for treason.



lies are the roots of all evil.



icky thump is a killer track.



check it out



i don't really want to

say those words where

i can.



i'm like a li'l child with

his neuropathways straightened

some.



folks who get offended by words

are pathetic phvcking cowards.



yshwa hu ha maleck,

viddy da shee awt L he

hmm vaught ha err etz

oo ye heh ye all.



survivor should have a season

in which nancy grace and oj simpson

on opposing teams.



i'm banned from the survivor sucks

board and alot of other ones, too,

because few of you can handle the truth.



cambodia is the natural habitat of many

8 yo prostitutes.



oh no!



got the suck?



not the truck!



hot water off a duck.



shot a buck.



it's not how it looks.



i'll swear on my uncle chuck's

grave if he dies.



shux



i confess,



i support the troops staying alive.



i, i , i, i, stayyyyin aliiiiiiiihiiiiiiihiiiiiiive...



what if the naturally selected leader of iraq,

after we get done phvckin it up more tries to get

every man woman and child to receive a mark

in order to buy and sell?



would you be christian, then?



if your not a christian, the fact that our

elected leaders claim to be, for the most part,

is reason enough to investigate christianity in

order to form a more perfect union with the

gang of liars and thieves getting fat paid and

closely guarded.



what if 2 ms 13 murderers who

know the shooter in a drug deal gone awry,

use that valium technique and identify

the wrong guy and pass their lie detector

tests?



would the police give up

trying to find the real killer?



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices

of them wishin to escape justice.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews, christians, and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!! :hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab

aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



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Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

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WillybbbbbbMessage #155

06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





Get real people!







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click on icky thump

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memorizing events that

keep happening over and over

again, helps one adapt to the

present.



things everybody knows and deliberates

to take for granted and/or ignore.



how wonderful.





click on icky thump

www.whitestripes.com/lo-fi/video.html



scooter libby tried to get

fellow american valerie plame killed, and the

media is promoting the possibility

that he'll get pardoned.



that's outrageous!



he should be tried for treason.



lies are the roots of all evil.



icky thump is a killer track.



check it out



i don't really want to

say those words where

i can.



i'm like a li'l child with

his neuropathways straightened

some.



folks who get offended by words

are pathetic phvcking cowards.



yshwa hu ha maleck,

viddy da shee awt L he

hmm vaught ha err etz

oo ye heh ye all.



survivor should have a season

in which nancy grace and oj simpson

on opposing teams.



i'm banned from the survivor sucks

board and alot of other ones, too,

because few of you can handle the truth.



cambodia is the natural habitat of many

8 yo prostitutes.



oh no!



got the suck?



not the truck!



hot water off a duck.



shot a buck.



it's not how it looks.



i'll swear on my uncle chuck's

grave if he dies.



shux



i confess,



i support the troops staying alive.



i, i , i, i, stayyyyin aliiiiiiiihiiiiiiihiiiiiiive...



what if the naturally selected leader of iraq,

after we get done phvckin it up more tries to get

every man woman and child to receive a mark

in order to buy and sell?



would you be christian, then?



if your not a christian, the fact that our

elected leaders claim to be, for the most part,

is reason enough to investigate christianity in

order to form a more perfect union with the

gang of liars and thieves getting fat paid and

closely guarded.



what if 2 ms 13 murderers who

know the shooter in a drug deal gone awry,

use that valium technique and identify

the wrong guy and pass their lie detector

tests?



would the police give up

trying to find the real killer?



copy, paste, post and

repeat again and again

in emails to the president

and media sources, to be

freed from the invisible ties

that bind you to the evil vices,

deeds, mechanisms and devices

of them wishin to escape justice.



do the bunny ranch's whoremongers

have to register their names and addresses,

and indicate whether they're married?



the freedom to commit adultery

is reserved for jews, christians, and muslims

who want to go to fvcking HELL.



legalize polygamy, now! goddammit!!! :hyper



atheists, satanists, wiccans, agnostics, buddhists, et al

who commit adultery legally in amsterdam and nevada

might already have the microchip of the beast imbedded

under their flesh and they'll wish they hadn't when they

learn the truth, we guess, suggest and bless the cursing

of the da,`,`,ned a blessing of the righteous.



even atheists believe the possibility

exists that there is a highest sentient

intelligence.



in the name of

ysh`,`,`a hu hab

aleckhmmmmmm...

4evah,



amen and amen



comments@whitehouse.gov



www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3077311/



Getting at the truth behind lie detectors



Mind games play a far bigger role than the machinery

During a lie-detector test, sensors are hooked up to monitor the subject, with data recorded on a moving strip of paper or a computer. As the interrogator asks questions, he or she looks for changes that could indicate heightened stress.



Most viewed on MSNBC.com

By David Ropeik

MSNBC contributor

July 24, 2001 - Is Rep. Gary Condit telling the truth? Did Bill Clinton? Richard Nixon? Wouldn’t it be great if there was a machine that could reliably detect liars? There is. But even lie detectors don’t always yield the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.



The lie detector machinery of today is based on the same premise the ancient Chinese used to catch liars; the stress of being caught lying causes changes in bodily functions, changes that can be detected.



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WillybbbbbbMessage #155

06/01/07 10:44 AM Another Fact stands out since a lot of "T.V. analysts" are talking about it.





Many are citing Our of war in Iraq, Afghanistan. Every day numbers, numbers and more numbers.





Some genius on MSNBC made a good point. "We are killing more terrorists and no one is talking about it." I am curious as to the number of terrorists we have killed since 2003?? Bush-y any "intelligence" on that one? You "can" measure progress, that is a Fact. The only problem is that first you need to do the math. Throw some digits at us Mr. President. How many terrorists have you killed?? Being there was 400,000 "elite revolutionary guards" before the invasion, occupation of Iraq and not to mention "those" where not considered terrorists. Has their status been upgraded lately? If so 1000 years it is ( just a prediction, of course).





Get real !







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