Question:
Who is better Tom Brady or Peyton Manning?
Chase
2014-01-31 08:12:22 UTC
As a Patriots fan, of course I think Brady's better. He's 10 - 5 against Peyton, though 1 - 2 against him in AFC Championship games, or as my friend put it " when it matters ". The 24 - 0 comeback solidified Brady as the best of the two for me. Who's the better to ya'll?
21 answers:
Professional Liar
2014-01-31 16:32:10 UTC
For starters, let me just say that devilishblueyes is a moron who makes things up. Case in point:

1. "Peyton really out-thinks the other team where Brady relies on his OC to do that for him. Now some might say that other QB's do the hurry up or catch teams with 12 men on the field. But Peyton is the one that popularized it."



Truth: Peyton Manning has excelled in this area, however that is due in large part to the fact he is playing in the same offense that he has played since his rookie season in 1998. Tom Moore was his OC for 11 years and the Colts ran a 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB set that entire time. What does he do now, the same thing. Manning doesn't have to rely much on an offensive coordinator, since his offense hasn't really changed nor has the personnel. Brady doesn't really rely on his OC either, but the fact that he's played for twice as many OC's and in various offensive schemes tells you all you need to know. And the no huddle, wasn't made popular by Manning, it was by Jim Kelly and the K-gun back in the early 1990's.





2. "The whole Super Bowl title argument just doesn't hold water. That would be like saying Terry Bradshaw is the best quarterback in the NFL because he won 4 Super Bowls. Even Harrison and Bruschi and several other former Pats players have said Peyton is better."



Truth: More BS. Terry Bradshaw didn't win a single individual award. Brady won 2 Super Bowl MVP's, so this really doesn't hold water. And no former Patriots player has said that Manning is better, which is hard to get wrong since Rodney Harrison tells you every week on NBC why he thinks Brady is better than Manning.



3. "Luck has far worse receivers to throw to than Brady even had this year. The Colts were mainly working with practice squad receivers. At least Brady had 2 second round draft picks, Edelman, a descent Amendola, Austin Collie and Gronk for part of the season. And Pats fans think that's BAD?!!! I've seen Peyton play with FAR FAR FAR worse. In 2009, he basically only had 1 wide receiver that was drafted in the first two rounds (Reggie Wayne) playing for him. The rest of the squad was a 6th rounder for the year before with only 3 catches and far more drops than catchse. Another was a 4th round rookie. And the rest weren't even drafted. But that year he started 14-0, should have gone 16-0 if not for Caldwell. And he went all the way to the Super Bowl. He did far more with a lot less than Brady. This was probably the first year in Peyton's entire career that he probably had a better team surrounding him than Brady has had. And he's taking his team to the Super Bowl again."



Truth: The Colts minus Reggie Wayne still had a better WR corps than the Patriots did, arguing it is beyond asinine. TY Hilton is still better than anyone on the Patriots roster. The Colts also had Wayne for about as long as the Pats had Gronk. Fleener was better than any other TE New England had and the rest of Brady's WR's either couldn't catch (Tompkins, Dobson) or stayed hurt (Amendola). Peyton Manning in his entire career never played with a WR corps that bad. Even in 2009 he still had All-Pro Reggie Wayne and All- Pro Dallas Clark, exactly who on the Pats this season was All-Pro?



4. "Peyton took that 6th rounder that really sucked and turned him into $45 million player Pierre Garcon. Brady's best receivers have all been developed veterans from other teams like Welker, Moss, etc. And the Pats keep trying to continue it with guys like Ocho Cinco, Larry Fitzgeral, Amendola, etc. He'll never make an 18 point AFC Championship come from behind win. He won't because he can't because he's not good enough to."



Truth: This guy hasn't watch football before 2007. Brady's receivers before 2007 were Troy Brown, David Patten, Bethel Johnson, David Givens, and Deion Branch. Who exactly is the "veteran receiver"? And who exactly was Wes Welker before 2007? And Manning didn't make Garcon into a $45 million receiver as he has proven that he has the talent since he's had success in Washington. And the comeback, that was 1 game which was pretty flukely as the statistics show when teams are behind and are losing the turnover battle.



You can't go wrong with either, but I'll take Brady because of the success in multiple offensive systems while dealing with a revolving door of skill position players and offensive coordinators.
Eric S.
2014-01-31 17:55:18 UTC
Hard to say, but I would pick Brady. Manning while great, I feel is more system oriented. Which isn't necessarily a slap in the face as it is fact. As someone else pointed out, exactly how is the Denver offense different than the Indianapolis offenses during the early/middle part of the 2000's? It's still the same offense, playing the same sets, with roughly the same amount of talent. But it seems so many forget that the 2008 Patriots without Brady didn't even make the playoffs. Yes, they went 11-5, but they still missed the playoffs and did not win the division. And while some would say that Brady was just a cog in the system, then Cassel should have played better, since he took the same roster that went 18-1 the previous season to 11-5 the following.
Louie O
2014-01-31 09:59:46 UTC
Peyton Manning only needs 115 yards on Sunday to pass Brady for Most Postseason passing yards...and Peyton will have played 3 fewer postseason games.



Terry Bradshaw has a higher winning percentage (14 - 5 .737) in the postseason, and more Super Bowl rings, than Manning or Brady...and Bradshaw never lost a Super Bowl (4-0).
Cu Tie
2014-02-03 23:52:30 UTC
Having watched his career unfold before my very eyes in the last 20 years, I believe that Peyton Manning is the better overall quarterback. Unlike Tom Brady, who only excelled in the NFL, Manning succeeded at all 3 levels of football (high school, college, and the NFL). In fact, I still remember back in the summer of 1993, when Peyton was the top prospect in high school football.
anonymous
2014-01-31 11:10:03 UTC
Wow, what an original question. It's been a whole 12 minutes since I saw one that was even similar.



Manning holds the records for most passing yards and touchdown passes in a season. When he missed the 2011 season with an injury, virtually the same Colts team that went 10-6 in 2010 managed to win just two games. And an 8-8 2011 Denver team became a 13-3 conference power once Manning signed on.

When Brady missed all but a few minutes of the 2008 season, he was not missed. New England still won the division, even with Matt Cassel at QB.



Manning makes a team better with his presence. Brady is part of a great system in New England.
anonymous
2014-01-31 09:30:54 UTC
Brady. People say that winning Super Bowls are a team effort, which it very well is, but then they use the "The Colts were 2-14 without Peyton Manning" argument. If Peyton Manning was responsible for turning the Colts into a winning team, then why isn't he responsible for his poor playoff career? Brady is all about winning. His NFL record career winning percentage, his NFL record 18 playoff wins, his NFL record 11 division titles, the great dynasty he helped build. I mean I'm a Patriots fan too, and I do think Peyton Manning is top 3 of all time, but Brady's accomplishments are undeniable.
Love2Answer
2014-01-31 10:07:35 UTC
Manning, but a lot are saying Brady. Overall, I think these two got into the "great list" of names such as Joe Montana, Dan Marino, John Elway etc.. This is a special time.
Bro
2014-01-31 08:55:33 UTC
Peyton Manning.



Rings or not, there's no doubt that he's better. At least in the regular season. Tom Brady has proven he's much better in the postseason.
Boomer Sooner
2014-02-03 14:06:36 UTC
Brady... Manning sucks as far as I'm concerned and proved me right after last night.
Seabass
2014-01-31 08:57:56 UTC
Hugh Millen
Tim
2014-01-31 08:13:06 UTC
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anonymous
2014-01-31 08:24:48 UTC
Brady. He's shown us what he can do with offensive weapons around him (like Peyton) and has been to 5 super bowls winning 3. <--- thats what the winner is. I think everyone needs to get over "who's better". There both great so stop debating and just appreciate football. Everyone gets to bitchayyy about it.
toddrick
2014-01-31 10:00:05 UTC
Who cares who anyone thinks is better than the other. Their are 30 teams that would take either of them, there are cases being dusted off to house their busts in Canton and anyone would be glad to play with either.
?
2014-01-31 09:18:06 UTC
Tom Brady
Samurai MC (SMC)
2014-01-31 13:57:55 UTC
Tom Brady knows how to win games. Throw him any kind of adversity and he'll play like he knows he's going to win. Down 3 TDs? No biggie. Two minute drill all day. Now it's tied. WTF JUST HAPPENED?
M. Diego
2014-01-31 09:02:48 UTC
We will never have a clear answer.



People still can't decide who was better between



Bradshaw and Staubach?

Elway and Marino?

Jim Kelly and Marino (Jim Kelly went 15-8 by the way)?

Aikman and Steve Young?



Just to name a few.
Bob
2014-01-31 13:23:21 UTC
peyton
BamaAndy
2014-02-03 12:29:58 UTC
Manning... Brady sucks as far as I'm concerned......
?
2014-01-31 10:15:20 UTC
Brady, doesn't need a bunch of offensive talent like manning to get the job done
?
2014-01-31 08:24:01 UTC
Of course manning are you crazy?
devilishblueyes
2014-01-31 09:29:55 UTC
I've watched both of these quarterbacks since the day each started in the NFL. Each has their strong points.



1. Peyton is Mr. Consistency. Brady is more clutch on the final drive. But Peyton is more consistent throughout the rest of the game. And he's more consistent from game to game. Every game Peyton plays you know you're going to get a good game from him. With Brady, he'll play like the best QB in the league one game then awful, losing to a team like Buffalo or the Jets the very next. I think the QB rating of both of these quarterbacks over the last few years attests to that. That's also partly what Peyton has the most 5-0 starts of any QB ever. And the most consecutive trips to the playoffs.



2. Brady gets passes off with 1-2 minimal steps, deftly avoiding tackers. He's awesome at it. Peyton does it by super quick releases on his passes.



3. Peyton goes outside the box to get yardage. He'll catch a team with 12 men on the field. He'll draw them off sides. He'll pass to a guy that was held to get the penalty yardage and draw attention to the hold. He'll gesticulate to throw the defense off. He'll make a minor adjustment to a play the defense thinks they know and burn the defense on it. Peyton does all these little things that Brady just doesn't do or just doesn't do nearly as much. Peyton really out-thinks the other team where Brady relies on his OC to do that for him. Now some might say that other QB's do the hurry up or catch teams with 12 men on the field. But Peyton is the one that popularized it.



4. Yes, Brady did have a comeback from a 24 point deficit. But he still lost that game by 10 points. When Peyton was down to Brady by 18 points, he won that game. Big difference.



5. Brady hasn't won a Super Bowl in the last decade. He was a rookie when the Pats won those Super Bowls. And if you go back and look who the Pats sent to the Pro Bowl those years, it was basically all defensive players. The whole Super Bowl title argument just doesn't hold water. That would be like saying Terry Bradshaw is the best quarterback in the NFL because he won 4 Super Bowls. Even Harrison and Bruschi and several other former Pats players have said Peyton is better. The reason why Brady has won more is because he had a far better defense and running game to work with back then. Look what has happened to the Pats defense since then. And how many Super Bowls has Brady won since then: A BIG FAT ZERO in TEN years! When Peyton won the Super Bowl back in 2006, he won it with the lowest ranked defense to ever win a Super Bowl. That tells you right there who the games were riding on.



6. I know a lot of people are mentioning how great Brady is because of how well he did this year with so little talent. Belichick and Josh McDaniels really deserve the credit for that instead of Brady. Belichick used what he had and adjusted his plays for every team he played. And he did it masterfully. McDaniels did a great job of implementing the run game. In fact, that's what won them the game against Andrew Luck and the Colts. Brady didn't throw for a single touchdown that game. In fact, Andrew Luck's stats have been nearly as good as Brady's this year and Luck has far worse receivers to throw to than Brady even had this year. The Colts were mainly working with practice squad receivers. At least Brady had 2 second round draft picks, Edelman, a descent Amendola, Austin Collie and Gronk for part of the season. And Pats fans think that's BAD?!!! I've seen Peyton play with FAR FAR FAR worse. In 2009, he basically only had 1 wide receiver that was drafted in the first two rounds (Reggie Wayne) playing for him. The rest of the squad was a 6th rounder for the year before with only 3 catches and far more drops than catchse. Another was a 4th round rookie. And the rest weren't even drafted. But that year he started 14-0, should have gone 16-0 if not for Caldwell. And he went all the way to the Super Bowl. He did far more with a lot less than Brady. This was probably the first year in Peyton's entire career that he probably had a better team surrounding him than Brady has had. And he's taking his team to the Super Bowl again.



7. While Brady may have won more playoff games. Don't forget that for the last 5 years or so these guys lost to the very same teams in the playoffs. Brady just lost by larger margins than Peyton did. So how is Brady better if he lost to the same team in the playoffs but by a wider margin?



8.There's really no record of Peyton's that Brady has beaten and held. However Peyton has knocked off and held many of Brady's records like the consecutive regular season wins. Another is the TD record. Peyton has owned that record twice. When Brady briefly held it, it took him playing 2 more games than Peyton to beat it by 1. Peyton obliterated the record this year and in the process knocked off Drew Brees's record too.



9. There's also things that Peyton has done that Brady hasn't even come close to accomplishing like making a 28 point comeback with 4 minutes left in a game to win the game. Just ask John Gruden. He vividly remembers that beating at the hands of Peyton. Then there's the win over Miami in the shortest offensive period by a QB ever. Peyton was on the field for less than a quarter of the game and pulled out the win. It was an aerial show of dominance that was just a once in a lifetime thing of beauty to watch.



Brady is very good. He's very clutch at the end of a game. But he's not as consistent as Peyton. He doesn't have the grand chessmaster football thinking ability that Peyton has. And Brady doesn't develop receivers like Peyton does. Peyton took that 6th rounder that really sucked and turned him into $45 million player Pierre Garcon. Brady's best receivers have all been developed veterans from other teams like Welker, Moss, etc. And the Pats keep trying to continue it with guys like Ocho Cinco, Larry Fitzgeral, Amendola, etc. And there's just feats that Peyton has done that Brady will never match. He'll never score 28 points in the last 4 minutes of a game. He'll never win a game in under 15 offensive minutes. He'll never make an 18 point AFC Championship come from behind win. He won't because he can't because he's not good enough to.



When you talk about talent it should be about how well a player plays. When you draft a player, you don't draft a QB on how many BCS titles he's won. If that makes a QB better, then you'd better pick a quarterback like Tim Tebow over guys like Andrew Luck, RG3, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Kaepernick, Foles, etc.



Peyton may not have more titles, but he players better.


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