Question:
Did the SEC have higher academic standards back in the 60's?
2008-11-27 23:58:18 UTC
We all know that the SEC has by far the lowest academic standards of any conference. Were they always like this, or did they have to lower them when forced integration made them have to accept people with a much lower learning capacity? Does anyone have any statistics on this? I am writing a paper and need info.
Eight answers:
rammerjammer
2008-11-28 00:06:43 UTC
I don't really have any stats on this, but while the SEC may be the lowest, Alabama should be ranked by itself, for we DO have academic standards, I don't really care what anyone says.



Good luck with your paper!
skillzzrr
2008-11-28 00:30:03 UTC
Don't get too cocky. Recent history isn't on your side. Plus, think what would happen if USC played OU. Not only does USC play defense, they play the best defense in the nation. Florida? Penn State? Alabama? Heck, Auburn has a really good defense. I bet they could give Oklahoma a run for their money, just by virtue of Oklahoma not used to someone defending the goal.



USC's offensive claims are highly blown out of proportion. They struggled against Oregon St. obviously, but you know as well as I do they should have easily won that. Other than that, what bad games have they had? 17 on Cal? It's had to put up 65 on a team that opens their eyes and moves their legs while playing defense.
Wilco Rules
2008-11-28 01:37:04 UTC
I'm not here to bash SEC. Forced integration did not just happen to the SEC, it happened to all conferences. SEC's low standard of academic standards isn't a function of race, but as a function of economics and competition.



On economics, look at the poorest states in the country. They fall mainly in SEC country. They are Tennessee, Kentucky, Louisiana, Bama, Arkansas and Mississippi (WV, Oklahoma and Montana is not SEC). Factor in competition. These schools aren't exactly top of the line Ivy Leagues who compete for students at an international level with sub 20% acceptance rates. In fact, schools like LSU will let most anybody in with a 73% acceptance rate, no offense LSU fans, just stating facts. Vanderbilt has the lowest acceptance rate but it's a private school, and has not been an SEC football powerhouse for the last couple years (decades?). UF, like the other 2 Florida schools, has decent acceptance rates but it's because people love to go to schools with sun, bikinis and not necessarily for academics.



Take the schools with the highest academic standards. Who are they? They are Northwestern, BC, Stanford, Duke, UVA, UNC, etc. These schools typically have low acceptance rates (sub 40%) and their academic standards for athletes reflect that. That's why these schools often don't become national champs in the modern era. Look at the economics of these schools. They are often private (Standford, NW, ND), in communities/states with high income per capita (VA, Triangle) or government service (Westpoint, Annapolis, AFA - acceptence rate sub 10%).



I think, with few exceptions, schools with low academic standards begets athletes with low academic standards. The converse is, generally, true.
deacon_frost06
2008-11-28 00:23:34 UTC
I only answer this in reply mostly to "rammerjammer" lmao..



1st Alabama? standards? lmfao.. ok lets think back to the 1960's and 70's at Bammer.. you had 175 football players on scholarship (basically twice as many as any other SEC school) and had football players on Swimming schollies.. and we all know that the SEC's scholastic prowess doesn't live in Tuscalooser.. try Nashville.. Vandy has the SEC's top academics.. followed by Auburn, Florida, Mississippi St, Georgia, Tennesee and South Carolina.. ALL before Alabama in both average GPA of Student Atheletes and Graduation rates



so sell that crap to someone who doesn't live in Alabama.. you're even 5th in the state



1) UAB

2) Auburn

3) UAH

4) UNA

5) Alabama



and no in the 60's the SEC wasn't strict on academics for football players.. the reason.. they didn't have to be as there was no NCAA to really police it..
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2016-11-17 07:55:34 UTC
Texas isn't almost as undesirable because of the fact the different states suggested. submit to in ideas that los angeles, MS, AL, GA, SC, NC, TN, KY, AR, and MO compete strongly to have the worst public ok-12 training equipment in the rustic each and every 3 hundred and sixty 5 days, or a minimum of it style of feels that way.
atmadick
2008-11-28 00:32:52 UTC
So what's the graduation rate of all SEC athletes? I think it's less than 40% which is pretty low. Hey I am not out here to bash SEC but I'm here just to state the fact..
Kelly
2008-11-28 03:05:02 UTC
Actually Georgia leads the nation in terms of athlete academic progress for the 2003-2007 classes. Followed by 2 other SEC schools in the top 5, Florida & Vandy.



1. Georgia. APR score: 965.

2. (tie) Wake Forest. APR: 964.

2. (tie) Penn State. APR: 964.

4. Florida. APR: 962.

5. Vanderbilt. APR: 959.

6. (tie) Boise State. APR: 953.

6. (tie) Auburn. APR: 953.

8. Connecticut. APR: 950.

9. USC. APR: 948.

10. (tie) BYU. APR: 946.

10. (tie) LSU. APR: 946.

10. (tie) Fresno State. APR: 946.

13. (tie) Alabama. APR: 944.

13. (tie) Utah. APR: 944.

13. (tie) Wisconsin. APR: 944.

16. (tie) Oklahoma. APR: 942.

16. (tie) Texas. APR: 942.

16. (tie) Ohio State. APR: 942.

19. Missouri. APR: 939.

20. Oklahoma State. APR: 935.

21. Virginia Tech. APR: 929.

22. Texas Tech. APR: 928.

23. Oregon. APR: 921.

24. Kansas. APR: 919.

25. South Florida. APR: 917.
zobaib s
2008-11-28 00:08:32 UTC
"Did they have to lower them when forced integration made them have to accept people with a much lower learning capacity?" Racist much?







LOL. Last I heard Sam Bradford was still learning to read.



Did somesay LSU? or did I hear USC? or was it Boise State (LOOOOOOOOOOL)? or was it a big east team like West Virginia (LOL)?


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