If there was another Troy Aikman, wouldn't he not get a chance in the NFL?

Question

He starter his career with the Dallas Cowboys with a 1-15 record...Imagine any rookie quarterback starting with that record, you think he is going to be lining up under center the next season? The NFL doesn't allow coaches or players to mature into their full potential...they don't care at all about next season they want to win now. they would rather see mediocre talent rather than a team with potential on the rise...anyone else agree? So if Troy Aikman was brought up in this NFL era, no one would know of him.

Answer 1

so while you're rant is correct-



Is it acceptable to you, for your team to go 1-15? Are you gonna be patient while they go thru the necessary growing pains?



After 1-15 is a couple of 7-9/8-8 years. Then maybe, just maybe, you get the Aikman 13-3



EDIT-



Kerry Collins started 7-6

Dilfer started 0-2 then 7-9

Boller 5-4 then 9-7



each of those records are a far cry from the 0-11 Aikman was responsible for



Carr 4-12

Harrington 3-11

Alex Smith 2-5, 7-9

Fiedler 1-0,10-5,11-5 (very good start, i'd say)



Akili 1-3, 2-9, 0-1, 0-1 seems to prove E's hypothesis. Playes with middlin' starts got more time to improve and win. They either got better or went the way of the team around them. Maybe Akili Smith never got a fair chance...

Answer 2

5 Kids really answered this question the best that you could have - Aikman was only as good as the team around him, and he provided a great example as far as David Carr goes.



To give you a couple of other examples of recent QB's who had a decent shot:



Ryan Leaf - 2 TDs to 15 INT's his rookie year. Benched for a year, Returned the following season to lead his team to a 1-8 record under the helm.... then he managed to get a starting position on another team the following season! 4-17 record as a starter.... and I know a couple of teams that toyed with bringing him in AGAIN!



Alex Smith - 1 TD to 11 INTS his rookie year. Played a full 2nd year, doing alright, leading the team to 7-9. 3rd year was awful - lost his starting job, and was cut this year for the immortal JT Sulivan and Shaun Hill.





Akilli Smith - 3-14 as a starter, but managed to be considered for a starting job for 3 seasons. in 17 starts (22 total appearances), he threw 5 TD's.



Brodie Croyle - 0-6 (or 8 now?) as a starter.... constantly injured, yet still may be the Chiefs "future."



Matt Leinhardt - Not a bad record as a starter, but definitely doesn't put up the number Kurt Warner does with the same talent around him. The franchise hasn't given up on him, but it hasn't given him the starting job either...



Eli Manning - Started off 1-6 in his career, and as recent as last November, mistakes made fans call for him to be removed as the starter....



Peyton Manning - Threw 28 INT's as a rookie, leading his team to a 3-13 record. Threw 15, 15, 23, and 19 the next 4 seasons on his way to becoming the best QB of his generation.



Although I definitely get your point, and see what you're saying, sometimes it is best for teams to pull the rug out from a QB who they simply don't think can make the cut. I do agree that often times teams will do that too early with their young QB's. Ironically the reason for this may be because of Aikman - he was a game managing QB who won a lot of Super Bowls. Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, and a few others followed this same mold, and they were successful. If a team is built with a good D and rushing attack, rather than risk it all on a young QB, it makes much more sense to put the game in the hands of someone who will make all the smart plays.

Answer 3

Well Aikman lucked out that he was on a team with a lot of talent around him. He was never very good, even at his best.



Imagine this: If we switched David Carr and Troy Aikman, do you think that Aikman would have lasted as long in Houston as Carr did, and do you think that Carr would have had as much success as Aikman did? I think the situations involving the entire organization would have made both QBs entirely switch roles.



Its not that teams are pulling the plug too early on these guys, its that fans are, and by the time the rest of the team gets turned around, the fans have had enough of the QB so he has to go while he watches the team improve without him.

Answer 4

That's not true because talent is talent. If it were based on records, then how did Kyle Boller (Ravens), Kerry Collins (Titans), and Trent Dilfer have jobs for so long?



Troy Aikman, by the way, is one of the most overrated players in recent history. He wasn't that good but he could manage the game reasonably enough.



EDIT:

Eazy you are missing the point which I explained clearly. Collins, Dilfer, Boller each lost a lot of games but yet maintained jobs. They've each started on bad teams for extended periods but yet were starting QBs. So your point in saying that Aikman wouldn't survive today is not true when off the top of my head I named 3 QBs who refute that. If you need more examples, look at how long David Carr started, Joey Harrington, Alex Smith, Jay Fiedler. None of those QBs played on good teams nor were they even considered talented individually but yet they've played and started many NFL games.

Answer 5

Aikman was thrown to the wolves as a rookie. He was lucky to survive until the Cowboys got Irvin, Smith, Johnston, and Novacek , plus an awesome O line.



If another QB the same skills came into the league today, he’d have a shot at being successful if the team could provide him offensive weapons and adequate pass protection.

Answer 6

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Answer 7

Troy would be OK as long as another LaVarr Arrington wasn't playing at the time.